Comments on: Motivation or Ability? https://cruciallearning.com/blog/motivation-or-ability/ VitalSmarts is now Crucial Learning Wed, 01 May 2024 03:07:39 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: DS Jordan https://cruciallearning.com/blog/motivation-or-ability/#comment-12165 Wed, 01 May 2024 03:07:39 +0000 https://www.crucialskills.com/?p=6347#comment-12165 This is a slippery slope, asking a leader to begin applying behaviors against a diagnosis. I have seen people with best of intentions quickly put themselves and the company at serious risk of litigation.

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By: cnpt1995alumini https://cruciallearning.com/blog/motivation-or-ability/#comment-8035 Tue, 25 Jan 2022 05:13:57 +0000 https://www.crucialskills.com/?p=6347#comment-8035 In reply to Farrah Edwards.

Well said!

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By: cnpt1995alumini https://cruciallearning.com/blog/motivation-or-ability/#comment-8034 Tue, 25 Jan 2022 05:11:09 +0000 https://www.crucialskills.com/?p=6347#comment-8034 Coworker-1 to Boss: “Boss, Coworker-2 seems to be not good with communication”

Boss to Coworker-2 : “John, I suspect that you may have Asperger syndrome or Autism, would you like to go to a doctor?”

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By: Cindy Brock https://cruciallearning.com/blog/motivation-or-ability/#comment-4825 Thu, 04 Aug 2016 14:51:15 +0000 https://www.crucialskills.com/?p=6347#comment-4825 In reply to Farrah Edwards.

I 100% agree with you, Farrah. The first thing I thought was potential liability. I write a newsletter about workplace situations, and I would never tell someone to do this. Amateur mental health diagnosis is a dangerous thing – both in and outside the workplace.

In the workplace, your focus must be to assume it’s a matter of lack of skill. Follow the normal process (e.g., coaching, mentoring, education) and move down that path and see what happens. If that doesn’t work, go up the chain of command (unless you are the top) and contact the appropriate department (such as HR) and find out how to proceed.

Above everything, no one must discuss this potential cause during face-to-face discussions, via email or other communication means. If they do, this puts the company in position for legal action because of illegal activities by their employees.

Folks: It is very dangerous to go down this path.

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By: Dave Birren https://cruciallearning.com/blog/motivation-or-ability/#comment-4824 Wed, 03 Aug 2016 20:13:48 +0000 https://www.crucialskills.com/?p=6347#comment-4824 In reply to Myles M.

I wrote the first comment on this post, the one about communication styles a la Robert Bolton. I was once very much like the person in question. Learning about communication styles was an enormous gift because it enabled me both to see myself more clearly and to understand others’ styles. My communication skills improved rapidly and many of my challenges at work and in my personal life decreased.

If someone had asked me if I had some kind of disorder I’m not sure what I’d have done. I feel confident that it would not have been pretty.

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By: Peter Eastman https://cruciallearning.com/blog/motivation-or-ability/#comment-4823 Wed, 03 Aug 2016 19:05:11 +0000 https://www.crucialskills.com/?p=6347#comment-4823 I agree with Farrah and mostly disagree with SLCCOM. As a business person, you are not interested in whether they are disabled, but whether they can do the job, with or without a reasonable accommodation. This requires an interactive process that starts when the person asks for some change in their work environment. Assuming a disability puts you in the same place as if they did have a disability. Actually asking someone, “Do you have Aspergers?” is a highly risky move; it may not be ‘illegal’, but you may only find that out if the court rules in your favor after he sues you.

Instead, focus on the specific, observable behaviors you see him do, as mentioned in the initial email, and either suggest replacement behaviors or get him to brainstorm replacement behaviors with you. such as:

“I have heard you interrupt people when they are still talking. Instead, I want you to…”

“I overheard Sally tell you three times that she had to leave for another meeting. You have to be more respectful of other people’s time, so I want you to tell me what you strategies you can think of to do that…”

“I was in the meeting when you asked Bill for details that were far beyond the scope of the meeting. Next time, I want you to review the scope of the meeting beforehand and limit your questions to that scope. ” or “If you have other questions, you can ask Bill if he will have time to discuss them with you later.”

“I notice that you want to take a deeper dive on data than we usually have time for. What do you think causes that? What do you think you can do to decide how much detail you need to make a good decision, and still stay within our time limits? I would be happy to help you create some guidelines around that.”

“I notice that sometimes people have used metaphors or similes around you that you seem to miss, which seems to leave you behind in the conversation. What can I do to help you with that?”

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By: Taylor https://cruciallearning.com/blog/motivation-or-ability/#comment-4822 Wed, 03 Aug 2016 19:00:27 +0000 https://www.crucialskills.com/?p=6347#comment-4822 I am disappointed that there was no discussion of helping the coworkers communicate better with the employee in question. It would be good to ask the employee how he would like to be communicated with in the situations mentioned. It may very well be that he does have difficulty reading normal subtle cues, and that he would prefer more direct communication than his coworkers are accustomed or comfortable with. A cooperative crucial conversation coming from all sides, assuming all parties are capable and educated in holding a crucial conversation, is more likely to reach a satisfactory conclusion than simply addressing it from one side.

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By: slccom https://cruciallearning.com/blog/motivation-or-ability/#comment-4821 Wed, 03 Aug 2016 18:40:05 +0000 https://www.crucialskills.com/?p=6347#comment-4821 It is not illegal to ask if this person has been diagnosed with Asperger’s or any other disability. An employee with a disability does NOT explicitly have to ask for accommodations to be covered by the ADA any more, and failing to explore the possibility and just firing the employee can create legal problems. A thorough discussion with an employment attorney before making the decision is definitely in order.

You can also train this person’s coworkers that they need to be explicit.
“Dave, I have to leave now.” will get across the message that they have to leave.

Many people on the autism spectrum make excellent employees, if they are given the proper jobs that work to their strengths and minimize the weaknesse.

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By: Myles M https://cruciallearning.com/blog/motivation-or-ability/#comment-4820 Wed, 03 Aug 2016 17:01:51 +0000 https://www.crucialskills.com/?p=6347#comment-4820 When I read this, I was thinking – Apergers halfway through the third sentence. I suggest you look to some of the materials available from the folks at: aspergerexperts.com Their CEO, Danny Raede, was diagnosed with Aspergers at age 12 and has built a business carreer based on it. They have many youtube videos available that help explain what it is like to have Aspergers; be in Defense mode all the time; suffer panic attacks; (that’s when you really know its Aspergers), and ‘How do you get someone with Aspergers to do something’. BTW the short answer is you can’t, but you can make it welcoming. That’s the reality these folks bring to the Aspergers discussion.

You can also sign up for their emails for free and it will give you some further insight into life on the spectrum.

I am not associated with aspergerexperts.com in any way. But I have a son with Aspergers and it makes our lives….. interesting and challenging and wonderful.

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By: Henry Jordan https://cruciallearning.com/blog/motivation-or-ability/#comment-4819 Wed, 03 Aug 2016 16:04:24 +0000 https://www.crucialskills.com/?p=6347#comment-4819 In reply to Farrah Edwards.

Spot on! Amateurs shouldn’t go around trying to diagnose Asperger’s or any other syndrome.

Confine your discussions to behavior and its impact on the employee and team’s performance.

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