Comments on: Addressing Health in the Home https://cruciallearning.com/blog/addressing-health-in-the-home/ VitalSmarts is now Crucial Learning Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:05:11 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: SharonL https://cruciallearning.com/blog/addressing-health-in-the-home/#comment-4207 Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:05:11 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=5966#comment-4207 I know the pain this man is undergoing. My mom had surgery on her leg. Her doctor has told her that she needs to move. She says it hurts and just props it up every day. In short, she gets up, goes to her chair, gets out of her chair and then goes to bed. The only reason she leaves the chair is to go to bed. Her weight is ballooning. She refused PT and told the therapist that he/she just didn’t get how badly it hurts. The dr. has shown no skills in addressing the situation My dad, who loves her dearly and has macular degeneration, is terrified. He is afraid that he is going to lose her. I’m amazed at the slings and arrows in the comments towards the writer. I feel his fear. My parents live too far away from me for me to help. He never mentions appearance but has conveyed his desire for them to be together for a long time. He has suggested going to parks, or starting with a few steps around the house, but she refuses to move. I’ve wondered about whether she is depressed, but privacy act issues make it tough for me to talk to the dr.
Please be careful in judging this man or his wife.

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By: MomShoots https://cruciallearning.com/blog/addressing-health-in-the-home/#comment-4206 Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:50:33 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=5966#comment-4206 In reply to Dennis.

I agree with your statement regarding him taking on caretaking. I was the primary caretaker, nutritional gatekeeper & handled all the bill paying. I also worked nights & shiftwork or modified my schedule to handle most things releated to the family. So while I sincerely agree with you point, “Perhaps ‘he’ could do some of the caretaking and allow her some time for herself.” However, that is just a first step. Once he takes that under his belt, and adjusts his healthy lifestyle, he should definately move on to take more of her responsibilities, until they are truely shared. Take on the food shopping, cooking/cleaning. Because he is correct in the fact that she may dig herself a hole that she cannot come back from. I personnally ended up with physical damage to both my feet, then knees at a young age, due to my weight gains & extended physical exertion, caring all that weight(plus the added weight of many items 50-70+ lbs), this while working exteneded shifts on concrete floors.
I may be telling myself a story, because my experience is that women typically take on the larger share of the home workload, plus work full time. While men typically believe they are doing thier share. The only way to truely divide the household workload it to switch. Come up with a plan of what you believe is a fair division of duties. Then after 2 or 3 months, completely switch all duties. Then you each walk in the others shoes.
This didn’t happen for me until I was older when the economy dumped in 2007(construction families were the 1st to be hit by the depression), & my construction hubby ended up not having any work. It was very interesting to see the realization of the how much home/housework was actually there for a simple family of four, when you never had to do it.

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By: JennyG https://cruciallearning.com/blog/addressing-health-in-the-home/#comment-4205 Thu, 13 Aug 2015 10:59:07 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=5966#comment-4205 Taking over the role of “gatekeeper” of anything doesn’t seem like a good idea in this situation, just as many have already mentioned. This is a very complex problem – emotionally, physically, relationally, work-load-wise, etc. While relieving the workload and other stress by the husband for his wife’s sake seems like an excellent idea, it would be much better for them to work together to come to their own conclusions about what would make her feel more loved and less over-worked and over-stressed. Some people really find joy in planning, shopping for and preparing meals, so that to simply take it out of their hands without deep agreement would be unkind and show an even lower value of the person one is trying to help. I agree with those in the comments who see this problem in a more holistic light and would recommend exploring loving ways to make this woman’s life more fulfilling before focusing in on a way to make her look more attractive, even if that is also healthier as well.

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By: Mike Mason https://cruciallearning.com/blog/addressing-health-in-the-home/#comment-4204 Wed, 12 Aug 2015 22:56:00 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=5966#comment-4204 The emotional weight accumulates just like physical weight. No matter how much she loves her daughter and husband the emotional toll of caring for a continuously sick child is enormous. My guess is she is depressed, feels the situation is hopeless and is depressed. I believe she needs to talk to a psychologist. A crucial conversation is needed. However, you guys may think I am telling myself a story. My prayers go out to you.

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By: Kimmie https://cruciallearning.com/blog/addressing-health-in-the-home/#comment-4203 Wed, 12 Aug 2015 18:24:37 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=5966#comment-4203 The wife’s statement “You don’t love me any more!” is what jumped out at me. As a compulsive over eater, I know the food-as-drugs phenomenon well. Emotional (and/or sexual) abandonment by a spouse is devastating. I’d say the husband needs to explore why she feels he doesn’t love her any more. Is he still warm for her form? He’s getting older, too … Bioidentical HRT could help both of them. ALSO, the pamphlet or book THE FIVE LOVE LANGUAGES may be of help. He could be saying “I love you” until he’s blue in the face but if her love language is quality time, acts of service, gifts … she won’t FEEL loved. GREAT BOOK, helpful in all familial and friendship relationships. One last suggestion: “Retrouvaille”. I hope she has some vacation time and a provider of respite care, because they need the time. I’m afraid she wants to die inside, but knows she can’t because of her daughter.

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By: Laurie https://cruciallearning.com/blog/addressing-health-in-the-home/#comment-4202 Wed, 12 Aug 2015 16:36:22 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=5966#comment-4202 In reply to Julinda.

Absolutely frustrating agreed. First point reflected back: Men in general think first with their eyes then their hearts. He should consider where his eyes go and where they return. His wife notices and her response in his POV reflects this.

She is a shift worker and that leads to obesity because meal and sleep patterns shift. This is well documented in reliable science based research.

I noted that division of labour is very present here by what was not said. This conversation needs to happen and then he needs to pick up his part in this and do some dirty work and use some elbow grease.

Maybe they need to revisit the personal care of an adult daughter. Being a 24/7 caregiver is an incredible burden. What about more outside help and sharing of the duties? He did not state his contributions. Is this all on her shoulders?

The one who is the nutritional gatekeeper could be the food police, or the eternal cookie provider, or some happy balance. It is a huge responsibility to be the one totally responsible for food provision and preparation and cleanup. He again needs to step up to the plate. (and not just to enjoy the fruits of someone else’s labour.)

She is around the magic age where a woman’s body does one of two things, depending on genes and lifestyle. She either gains weight or loses weight. Each has its benefits and difficulties. He could do some good science based research reading and adjust his requirements for his happy life.

She is the wife of his youth and as such deserves some respect in her maturing years. He has not done this and needs to PDQ before she has a health incident or loses 180 pounds instantly. He clearly has not fed her heart so that her attention turns to the two of them individually and as a couple, not just her daughter and the family budget.

He is blessed with the opportunity to turn this around. Get they rear end in forward gear and push the vacuum, cook some meals, and hire a caregiver for respite care, etc. with enthusiasm. Only he can turn himself around and keep his eyes and heart focused on the wife of his youth .

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By: Kim https://cruciallearning.com/blog/addressing-health-in-the-home/#comment-4201 Wed, 12 Aug 2015 16:30:08 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=5966#comment-4201 The mention of a daughter with a serious illness made me think this could all be much more complex than his wife no longer making herself a priority. It sounds like she could be suffering from codependent behavior. Codependence is often associated with people who love alcoholics, but caretakers for those with serious health issues can also suffer from this pattern of behavior. Studies show that a shocking percentage of codependents are overweight, largely in part because of their behavioral patterns of caring for others and neglecting their own needs. I can understand why this would be painful for both the wife and the husband. I could be completely off the mark here, but just his description of her behavior sounds very familiar to me. Here’s a great book to help both of them understand the complexities of codependency and how to regain some control: http://www.amazon.com/Codependent-No-More-Controlling-Yourself/dp/0894864025

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By: Paula https://cruciallearning.com/blog/addressing-health-in-the-home/#comment-4200 Wed, 12 Aug 2015 16:04:15 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=5966#comment-4200 In reply to Laura Moen.

This is my take as well! Instead of trying to take control of her eating so she won’t be fat and ugly anymore (which is what this comes off as complaining about), how about helping your sick daughter and letting your wife get some chill time? Jeez.

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By: Judi https://cruciallearning.com/blog/addressing-health-in-the-home/#comment-4199 Wed, 12 Aug 2015 15:54:53 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=5966#comment-4199 Very good advice Emily!! And I wholeheartedly disagree with those who are being tough on Frustrated Spouse for mentioning her weight/appearance. Weight is simply the external symptom of what could be serious internal health issues that if not addressed will impact the entire family.

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By: Dennis https://cruciallearning.com/blog/addressing-health-in-the-home/#comment-4198 Wed, 12 Aug 2015 15:06:20 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=5966#comment-4198 In reply to Julinda.

Completely agree. His concern is about himself and not her. He should be worried about why a presumably middle-aged person would suddenly gain weight–Is she depressed and in need of medical care? Certainly the devastating illness of a child could make anyone depressed. Working different shifts in and of itself is not healthy–is he allowing her to sleep enough? Is she doing all the caretaking of her daughter? Perhaps he could do some of the caretaking and allow her some time for herself. This would be more loving than not letting her shop for groceries. The reasons for overweight and obesity have nothing to do with how much one cares about one’s physical appearance–hardly anyone does not care about their physical appearance deep down. He is making a value judgement about her and she is well aware of that. She needs support and kindness, not judgement. His “concern for her health” is disingenuous.

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