Comments on: How to Talk About Racism https://cruciallearning.com/blog/how-to-talk-about-racism/ VitalSmarts is now Crucial Learning Thu, 09 Jul 2020 16:31:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: Robert https://cruciallearning.com/blog/how-to-talk-about-racism/#comment-7393 Thu, 09 Jul 2020 16:31:13 +0000 https://www.vitalsmarts.com/crucialskills/?p=8219#comment-7393 With the state of where our society is on this issue today I agree that such a conversation can be a bit like a minefield at the moment. I would add to Maria’s advise for starting the conversation that once you establish that you truly care, ask that they give you grace if you say something that is received as offensive. Ask that they give you the benefit of the doubt that if you say something offensive, it was done out of ignorance and the last thing you want to do is to say something they find offensive.

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By: Ashleigh https://cruciallearning.com/blog/how-to-talk-about-racism/#comment-7392 Thu, 09 Jul 2020 15:40:03 +0000 https://www.vitalsmarts.com/crucialskills/?p=8219#comment-7392 Thank you, Mardi, and well said. I also came here to comment on this and am disappointed that Maria did not begin with this point. A great deal has been written about the importance of educating oneself about racism rather than constantly expecting people of color to do the teaching, for the very reasons you said. It is exhausting, traumatizing, and unpaid emotional labor for people of color. This is not to say that we should never engage in interracial conversations about race. But if Eager’s primary objective is to “learn” about race, they should start by digging into the countless lists of anti-racism articles, books, podcasts, films, etc. readily available online.

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By: Mardi https://cruciallearning.com/blog/how-to-talk-about-racism/#comment-7391 Thu, 09 Jul 2020 00:59:09 +0000 https://www.vitalsmarts.com/crucialskills/?p=8219#comment-7391 I wish part of Maria’s advice to the letter writer was to evaluate whether their desire for the conversation on racism is just an attempt to avoid a basic attempt at self-education disguised as curiosity. I’m tired of people of other races asking me to define the position of Black or BIPOC people is (as if we’re a monolith and I’m the convenient tap into how we all feel) or explain current events that they could easily research themselves – often by just turning on a tv or opening a browser. I’m dealing with enough and don’t need others trying to offload their labor onto me. Harm has been done in these conversations by people unwilling to investigate their motives or to do the important work.

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By: Mardi https://cruciallearning.com/blog/how-to-talk-about-racism/#comment-7390 Thu, 09 Jul 2020 00:57:34 +0000 https://www.vitalsmarts.com/crucialskills/?p=8219#comment-7390 In reply to John Shoucair.

Thank you. I came here to make a similar comment.

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By: Bob Jones https://cruciallearning.com/blog/how-to-talk-about-racism/#comment-7389 Wed, 08 Jul 2020 21:27:14 +0000 https://www.vitalsmarts.com/crucialskills/?p=8219#comment-7389 In reply to John Shoucair.

Speaking of Educational divides, first you confuse the author Maria with the “person” asking the question. Then you mistake the word “Eager” for the name “Edgar.” That alone makes me question your advice, although I have certainly heard a number of Black folks complain about feeling a burden in explaining things to whites. But who said this person whom you think is named Edgar is even white? When a Newbie asks MY views about surviving in Corporate Culture – or even American Culture – I don’t view educating them about MY personal opinions as a burden, because not everybody sees the things the same way that I do. And I also don’t look for every opportunity to be offended by other people’s ignorance – when they are sincere. But I can see how some folks really get tired of dealing with Racial issues, but some build their entire identities and lives around it. And Ava DuVernay’s political views and biases do not necessarily match up with the views of every African-American. I would much prefer that somebody start with “The Souls of Black Folks” by W.E.B. duBois, first, to get more of a broader historical perspective from one of the first Sociologists in America – Black OR white. READ duBois’ firsthand accounts of what life was like for Black folks back THEN, and then compare that with what it is like NOW. Nothing wrong with reading Douglas’ speech, but also nothing wrong with reading or watching anything recently produced on youtube with Coleman Hughes, a brilliant young Black intellectual, or John McWhorter, or Glen Loury. Recognize that THEY feel that they represent a Minority perspective within America due to Media and biases in the Academic world. Then go watch Ms. DuVernay’s film(s), armed with the knowledge that Black filmmakers don’t necessarily have any more allegiance to details than white ones do.

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By: Mark Kennedy https://cruciallearning.com/blog/how-to-talk-about-racism/#comment-7388 Wed, 08 Jul 2020 20:34:02 +0000 https://www.vitalsmarts.com/crucialskills/?p=8219#comment-7388 Excellent article and such thoughtful advice.

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By: John Shoucair https://cruciallearning.com/blog/how-to-talk-about-racism/#comment-7387 Wed, 08 Jul 2020 20:07:00 +0000 https://www.vitalsmarts.com/crucialskills/?p=8219#comment-7387 Sorry I meant to reference “Edgar” who asked the question. Not the real author Maria, who wrote this response.

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By: John Shoucair https://cruciallearning.com/blog/how-to-talk-about-racism/#comment-7386 Wed, 08 Jul 2020 20:01:10 +0000 https://www.vitalsmarts.com/crucialskills/?p=8219#comment-7386 Before engaging in such a question, “Maria” should try to significantly close some of the educational divide. A person of the other race should not have the burden of providing a perspective AND educating. Maria would benefit from watching the Netflix movie “13th” and doing a small self-study. I recommend reading Frederick Douglas’ July 5th, 1852 speech on Independence day, or Googling James Earl Jones’ rendition of excerpts..

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By: Justin Hale https://cruciallearning.com/blog/how-to-talk-about-racism/#comment-7385 Wed, 08 Jul 2020 19:49:19 +0000 https://www.vitalsmarts.com/crucialskills/?p=8219#comment-7385 thank you for your thoughts on this topic! so needed for me and others

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