Comments on: Speaking the Unspeakable https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-speaking-the-unspeakable/ VitalSmarts is now Crucial Learning Thu, 17 Mar 2022 19:16:02 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: Ralph C https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-speaking-the-unspeakable/#comment-4810 Sun, 31 Jul 2016 20:34:52 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=4236#comment-4810 http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/403/transcript
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From your article: “At the heart of this effort, lies one key principle: You can’t change something you can’t talk about.”
True enough…
Unfortunately, it seems as though you can’t change somethings you CAN talk about.
Hyperlink above is for a transcripted version of a broadcast done on “This American Life” about the NUMMI joint venture- a car plant created by General Motors and Toyota.
It contains interviews with both workers and management.
Turns out that as problematic as the unions and workers were, management was also unwilling to change to more effective and efficient methods.
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An excerpt:
Frank Langfitt
Those exact numbers– GM went from 47% of the US market in the mid 1970s to 35% a decade later. One reason car execs were in denial was Detroit’s insular culture. Yes, unions and management were always at each other’s throats, and yes, GM and its suppliers had a destructive relationship that seemed to almost discourage quality, but everyone had settled into comfortable roles in this dysfunctional system and learned to live with it. And in the late 1980s, with their market share in free fall, Jeffrey Liker says they were more apt to blame others than themselves.
Jeffrey Liker
I worked with all the big three at the time, automakers, and it was common in all three automakers. They all believed that if the consumers think we have quality problems, it’s because Consumer Reports is misleading them, and they’re biased toward Toyota. They all believed that Consumer Reports was against them, that there was somewhat of a myth of Japanese quality.
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My brother has worked as an independent consultant for several manufacturing companies here in the states. He’s a systems engineer who has been hired to fix problems that on the outside look like manufacturing issues, but in fact typically stem from management problems. And you know what? He is usually fired when he brings up the fact that they need to change. (And he’s a highly-trained, thorough, and tactful guy, not some shoot-from-the-hip, quick-fix artist). They then hire another set of consultants, hoping to hear something different.

Even with a gun to their heads, (metaphorically speaking), humans show an amazing resistance to change. It must be hardwired into our DNA, and good luck in changing that basic bit of ego-driven psychology.

I do like the story about a radio show having such massive effects. What do you think a modern American version of this might be? Oprah used to have tremendous influence a short while ago… perhaps she should be tapped for her expertise!

Regards,
Ralph

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By: Duane Penzien https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-speaking-the-unspeakable/#comment-4809 Fri, 29 Jul 2016 01:34:50 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=4236#comment-4809 I couldn’t agree more with this subject. There are simply too many things in today’s society that cannot be discussed out loud, and that silence definitely hurts our country. (And, for that matter, any other country.) Finding ways to bring these things out for open discussion and reflection help people to decide things that they would never even think of before. And who knows? Maybe more of this would lead to less of a whole lot of bad things and our world could be a safer and healthier place.

Great Article!

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By: Adrian https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-speaking-the-unspeakable/#comment-4808 Thu, 28 Jul 2016 23:01:13 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=4236#comment-4808 What a fascinating case study. I can think of one very important way to implement it. Shooting deaths are horrifyingly commonplace here in the US and thousands of tragedies happen daily in the form of murders, suicides, and accidental shootings, but the instant you even mention any type of solution, however benign or well-intentioned, people just about start foaming at the mouth. Maybe this is the type of solution we need to at least be able to start some intelligent discussions on this heated topic and be able to come up with some common-sense solutions to these needless deaths.

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By: RP https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-speaking-the-unspeakable/#comment-4807 Thu, 28 Jul 2016 20:29:03 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=4236#comment-4807 Interesting article. What happened in India brought 2 things to mind for me:

1. Modern Family has been a hit TV series since 2009. The show features a same-sex couple who have adopted a child. Did this “entertainment” influenced the American public and result in 37 states legalizing same-sex marriage to some degree between 2003-2015, and the subsequent decision of the supreme court to rule any additional state bans on same-sex marriage as unconstitutional in 2015? Is this an example of a show changing long-held norms?

2. I read the story of Owen Suskind, an regressive-autistic boy, who uses the characters in Disney movies that he watches repeatedly to guide his emotional growth and process real-life situations. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/09/magazine/reaching-my-autistic-son-through-disney.html. Is this an extreme case of 1. above? Even if it is not relevant to this article, I urge you to read it.

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By: Steve https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-speaking-the-unspeakable/#comment-4806 Wed, 27 Jul 2016 22:05:42 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=4236#comment-4806 Had management paid labor a decent rate in the first place perhaps there wouldn’t have been the need to make overtime to earn a decent wage. I find your story incomplete but appreciate the key point about the need to discuss such concerns freely.

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By: Terrie https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-speaking-the-unspeakable/#comment-4805 Wed, 27 Jul 2016 20:07:38 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=4236#comment-4805 Powerful. Keep it coming! I took the survey. I want to hear the results! Thank you for your thoughtful conversations.

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By: Marie Maly https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-speaking-the-unspeakable/#comment-4804 Wed, 27 Jul 2016 16:19:39 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=4236#comment-4804 Kerry, I’m going to vote for you as a write-in for President! Which party are you affiliated with? Seriously, the answer to much of today’s problems (perceived or real) in America comes down to the simply truths that your article so elegantly point out. I will be saving this article in my folder of “tips” and expect to be able to make good use of it. Thanks.

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By: Bruce Reirden https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-speaking-the-unspeakable/#comment-4803 Wed, 27 Jul 2016 15:39:00 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=4236#comment-4803 Reading the article “Speaking the Unspeakable” brought back a wave of strong memories from the early 1970’s. After serving my country for 4 years, I became a college student and during the summers I worked at a manufacturing company as a machinist. It was unionized and even at that time competition from overseas was having a profound impact on its ability to compete.

As a Summer employee I was at the bottom of the pay scale and the jobs I was given were basic, but produced integral parts for their manufactured product lines. I was (still am) a curious and inventive person and got quickly bored with repetitive tasks. On two occasions I was given “piece work” jobs where I made my pay by producing a number of pieces per hour. The rates as they were set were good. Not being aware of the union way of thinking, I created “jigs” (tools that aid in the manufacturing/production process) that in the first case increased the production rate by a factor of 4; in the second case by a factor greater than 8. Management was thrilled and gave me great praise. I was beaming with pride until I got a visit from the union steward who made it perfectly clear that I had “busted the rate” and if I ever did it again bad things would happen. Fortunately, I soon returned to school and graduated.

The company continued to struggle and attempted to come out with new and innovative products, but folded shortly afterward; as did the union local. They simply could not compete with [at the time] Japanese efficiency. Sadly, every employee lost his/her job. For me, it was a real eye-opening view into the declining American manufacturing world, the “us VS the enemy” attitude the union had towards the company and the resistance that workers had towards change.

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By: Kenneth Zimmer https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-speaking-the-unspeakable/#comment-4802 Wed, 27 Jul 2016 15:27:03 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=4236#comment-4802 Unions have helped workers get better working conditions, benefits, pay, and protection from harassment. Unfortunately the pendulum can’t help but swing. Unions, like personal injury lawyers who convince their clients they are sick, miserable, and can no longer function, incite their members with talk of misery and mistreatment. Wages go up, benefits go up, productivity doesn’t change or goes down since workers are convinced the company that employs them is now the enemy. And the pendulum swings, but back the other way. Jobs are lost, companies are torn apart, and now both sides are unhappy.

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By: KS https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-speaking-the-unspeakable/#comment-4801 Wed, 27 Jul 2016 14:18:44 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=4236#comment-4801 Having worked with staff that works 8 or 10 hour shifts, there are some things that might be beneficial to consider. Maybe maintaining high productivity for long work days isn’t the ideal. Maybe achieving high productivity for shorter work days is the ideal. It is difficult to maintain focus for hours on end, and there is the issue of physical exhaustion. Where I live heat is an additional challenge. Sometimes raising their pay but decreasing the number of hours they work per day increases productivity for each of those work hours. If they know they have to continue working no matter what, they will automatically tend to pace themselves early in the day. If employers set a minimum amount of work to be accomplished and a minimum number of hours they could increase productivity while protecting their employees’ health, wellbeing and morale.

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