Comments on: What Can You Do When Someone Won’t Forgive You? https://cruciallearning.com/blog/what-can-you-do-when-someone-wont-forgive-you/ VitalSmarts is now Crucial Learning Thu, 08 Feb 2024 13:40:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: Stephanie Tanner https://cruciallearning.com/blog/what-can-you-do-when-someone-wont-forgive-you/#comment-11650 Thu, 08 Feb 2024 13:40:23 +0000 https://cruciallearning.com/?p=23643#comment-11650 In reply to Lynette.

I agree. I don’t think people should apologize for being recognized and promoted in the work place. I do agree that a frank conversation about on going resentment and their working relationship is necessary. If LW is not their supervisor, their supervisor should step in and discuss the impact on productivity and cohesion this ongoing problem is causing.

]]>
By: Philip https://cruciallearning.com/blog/what-can-you-do-when-someone-wont-forgive-you/#comment-11623 Fri, 02 Feb 2024 20:19:39 +0000 https://cruciallearning.com/?p=23643#comment-11623 Lots of good ideas, and of course, the article has to be short and to the point. I’m sure you could have added more, but that sure is a lot to unpack.
I am a believer in really thinking through what I might have done on my part to apologize for and if you can’t find anything, maybe there’s nothing you can do. However, I kind of agree with some folks that that sort of apology is not really an apology at all and might sound insincere.

Here are a few things you might want to look at yourself before approaching this person:
1. Were they interested in the job first and then you got interested in it?
2. Do they feel like you stole the job from them by you taking credit for things they did, or undermining them to your superiors during the process?
3. Did they know you were applying for the job? or were you offered the position or asked to apply out of the blue and unplanned?
4. After taking the position, have you not given them credit for their work in some fashion?

So before even apologizing, you could ask to talk to them. If they agree, tell them that you can see that they are upset and it has affected your relationship and you’d like to understand why and if you have done anything that they perceived as wrong. Tell them that maybe there is something that is obvious to you and for which you have no idea, but if that is the case, you care enough to know and to rectify it if possible. Let them know that if they feel you have wronged them, could they please help you to understand how, so you can take responsibility for your actions. If so, then you may apologize.

If they cannot do so, but simply cannot get over the fact that they were not promoted and there is no wrongdoing on your part, maybe you can share how you can see it is hurting them and how unhappy they are. Maybe you can give them a project to work on in order to be promoted to another position. If there is no such possibility, then ask if there is something else that is part of that decision that is making them so upset. Maybe they have financial problems and they were counting on the promotion to help fix them. Maybe they have relationship issues or other insecurities that they thought would make them feel good about themselves. Maybe they had goals and a timeline for those goals, and now the only way to reach them is to go to another company (which often is the best way to move ahead) but they don’t want to move out of their comfort zone.

So, there could be many reasons for their behavior that have nothing to do with you. If you let them know that you still offer your friendship if they change their mind, maybe that is all you can do and maybe that is enough.

]]>
By: Unapologetic GenXer https://cruciallearning.com/blog/what-can-you-do-when-someone-wont-forgive-you/#comment-11618 Thu, 01 Feb 2024 22:03:42 +0000 https://cruciallearning.com/?p=23643#comment-11618 I disagree in this situation. If someone feels slighted because they were passed over, perhaps they should look inward as to why they were not promoted. Perhaps they only think of themselves as better suited. Leadership made a choice they felt was in the best interest of the company, period. Accept something you had no control over and work to be better (there or elsewhere). I lived something similar. I was hired on to run a transportation charter division for city conventions and business bookings. Another person in the office, who was tasked with showing me around, took an immediate dislike to me once we were out of the purview of leadership. I asked what I had done to offend them and just got a smirk and dirty look. After the first few weeks they started to sabotage my work, cancelled customer booking in the system, and even so much as to cause physical harm to me. When I lodged a complaint, Leadership just said to work it out. After many attempts, my working it out was leaving. It was later told to me, this person had used the same tactic with the two others they hired after me, because she wanted the job but leadership didn’t want her. They finally let her go. So, in a case like this, I would not apologize for being qualified and capable to do a job I was hired to do. I would not apologize for someone else’s perceived harm, as it ultimately is their own personal issue, not mine. At least in my case.

]]>
By: davidwillers https://cruciallearning.com/blog/what-can-you-do-when-someone-wont-forgive-you/#comment-11612 Wed, 31 Jan 2024 21:46:52 +0000 https://cruciallearning.com/?p=23643#comment-11612 In reply to Tracy.

Agree this makes sense too. if its ones job then the apology is not sincere, and the hearer will see right through it.

]]>
By: davidwillers https://cruciallearning.com/blog/what-can-you-do-when-someone-wont-forgive-you/#comment-11611 Wed, 31 Jan 2024 21:45:49 +0000 https://cruciallearning.com/?p=23643#comment-11611 In reply to James Brown.

100% James!

]]>
By: James Brown https://cruciallearning.com/blog/what-can-you-do-when-someone-wont-forgive-you/#comment-11610 Wed, 31 Jan 2024 21:42:40 +0000 https://cruciallearning.com/?p=23643#comment-11610 In reply to Tracy.

I think the most important part of a sincere apology is the tone more than the vocabulary. It’s true that if you say “I’m sorry that you got upset” it’s not an apology. But either “I’m sorry I did something to upset you” or “I apologize for doing something to upset you” should work if sincere.

]]>
By: Debbie https://cruciallearning.com/blog/what-can-you-do-when-someone-wont-forgive-you/#comment-11609 Wed, 31 Jan 2024 21:40:07 +0000 https://cruciallearning.com/?p=23643#comment-11609 In reply to Tracy.

I think that people will feel differently according to their own lifes events.
From my personal experience Someone caused my child and I serious permanant physical and mental harm and when found guilty of negleance in the Plane crash and then asked by the press why he has never reached out to the person he hurt and was only concerned about his plane; his response was “SORRY this ever happened.
He has never apologized or shown any concern for what he did to my little boy and I. He was only SORRY that he got caught and it hurt his beloved plane.

This is the link to the plane crash.

https://pamplinmedia.com/mop/157-news/520395-415826-pilot-reckless-in-plane-crash-involving-molalla-residents-pwoff

You need to click on the pictures and links to see them all.

I’m still looking for a law firm to take care of this.

]]>
By: View from the other side https://cruciallearning.com/blog/what-can-you-do-when-someone-wont-forgive-you/#comment-11608 Wed, 31 Jan 2024 21:29:34 +0000 https://cruciallearning.com/?p=23643#comment-11608 I was once on the other side a similar relationship where a former peer and confidant was promoted to become my manager. I have a few thoughts based on my experience. Some aspects of our relationship were different. For example, the person was a peer and confidant but I was not competing for the job.

My new manager has a different communication style than previous managers and is not experienced in the type of work my team does. Her vision for the future she wants to build downplayed our accomplishments from the past. It would have helped if she had more clearly stated her appreciation for the hard work we had previously done.

She decided to move some of our projects to another team but didn’t give clear directions about work our team would be doing. The change felt abrupt with no time to find an off ramp. It would have helped to identify parts of the project we could complete as well as providing a new project we could get excited about.

There were also times when it did not feel safe to ask questions.

Other factors contributed to what became a challenging year. I blame myself for some of that by being slow to adapt to the new organization. Thankfully, I finally did. However, I also think a new manager can do a lot to ease the transition with clearly defined plans, partnership with the team, and making the space safe for questions.

]]>
By: Tracy https://cruciallearning.com/blog/what-can-you-do-when-someone-wont-forgive-you/#comment-11606 Wed, 31 Jan 2024 18:51:00 +0000 https://cruciallearning.com/?p=23643#comment-11606 In reply to Debbie.

I agree they are different, but I found the opposite to be true…working with the public years ago, we were trained to say “I apologize” when trying to appease an upset customer. It always felt very generic, very non-personal (“I’m-only-saying-this-because-it’s-my-job”). I would personally find “I’m sorry” to be much more genuine.

]]>
By: Debbie https://cruciallearning.com/blog/what-can-you-do-when-someone-wont-forgive-you/#comment-11605 Wed, 31 Jan 2024 18:28:45 +0000 https://cruciallearning.com/?p=23643#comment-11605 In reply to David.

I agree 100%
I’m sorry and I apologize are very different. The first is very generic and shows no personal accountability and the second is personal and shows sincerity. Thank you for restructuring the statement to help others see the difference.

]]>