Comments on: What to Say When People Break Boundaries https://cruciallearning.com/blog/what-to-say-when-people-break-boundaries/ VitalSmarts is now Crucial Learning Tue, 02 May 2017 22:09:45 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: Cappy https://cruciallearning.com/blog/what-to-say-when-people-break-boundaries/#comment-5639 Tue, 02 May 2017 22:09:45 +0000 http://www.vitalsmarts.com/crucialskills/?p=6698#comment-5639 Girl, strategise. Preparation is key. Tell him in advance, maybe a few hours before, by text even, that you need to speak with him later about how you feel about something and that when you do talk with him later, you need him to listen to you, not judge, fix, interrupt, minimise, deny, defend or excuse. That’s the first conversation. Then have the later second one ‘when x does x I feel x etc’ but also plant the seed for a third conversation, about resolution e.g. ‘thanks for listening, I’d like us to come up with a solution in the next 2 days’ or ‘I just needed to say that, can we just have a think about it for now and talk about a way forward next week’. I work in HR and sometimes have to talk to someone about their performance, conduct and sickness. It really helps in advance to say to the other person, we’re having a meeting in 3 parts, or a discussion in 3 parts. So strategise, be super clear in your own mind about each part and don’t get over emotional!

]]>
By: Cappy https://cruciallearning.com/blog/what-to-say-when-people-break-boundaries/#comment-5638 Tue, 02 May 2017 21:50:53 +0000 http://www.vitalsmarts.com/crucialskills/?p=6698#comment-5638 In reply to Debi Potter.

Your SD needs to move out.

]]>
By: Jordan Snedaker https://cruciallearning.com/blog/what-to-say-when-people-break-boundaries/#comment-5637 Fri, 03 Mar 2017 14:32:07 +0000 http://www.vitalsmarts.com/crucialskills/?p=6698#comment-5637 Great insights about two separate conversation that need to happen. Thanks for your insights Steve!

]]>
By: Hilary Anne Mayhew https://cruciallearning.com/blog/what-to-say-when-people-break-boundaries/#comment-5636 Thu, 02 Mar 2017 12:19:56 +0000 http://www.vitalsmarts.com/crucialskills/?p=6698#comment-5636 I always appreciate these blogs for helping me apply the book’s lessons to real world problems. For Dream Weaver, I was thinking it would also be important to start with Mastering My Stories, to examine where your boundaries are rooted and what expectations you’re willing to adjust as well. It may not apply to you, DW, since we don’t know the specifics of the boundaries you mention of course, but I wanted to offer thoughts from a “family culture” perspective. It may be fruitful to spend time before this conversation considering where you and your partner’s family may have different family cultures, norms, and assumptions about acceptable behaviors. For any growing family, everyone is adjusting to new expectations, and bringing their norms from the past to interact with new people. Some friction is a natural result and should be expected. It can be really helpful, I’ve found, to check in before Interpreting this friction as evidence of bad behavior though. Sometimes, it is simply a matter of not yet being able to fully grasp each other’s expectations. It can become a rich opportunity for growth together as a family.

As one example, if I’ve always seen my bedroom as private space where children shouldn’t enter, but the family I’m joining has always had an “open door policy” where kids are encouraged to come in any time, those expectations are going to clash. I want my bedroom to myself, and I say so. This doesn’t make intuitive sense to the kids (or their parents), so the kids have a hard time internalizing this expectation and the parents often forget that I’m “weird” in this way, or resist enforcing a rule they don’t understand. I keep reminding, it rarely “sticks” and we’re increasingly frustrated. If we’re not careful, I may develop a story that the kids are disrespectful and the parents rude. Meanwhile, the parents may think I’m unreasonable and don’t want to bond with their kids. My partner wants everyone to get along and is confused about how their loved ones could have come up with such uncharitable stories about each other.

Neither approach to bedroom usage is “right,” but the other’s approach will feel foreign, even gut-level “wrong,” because one’s own approach feels so comfortable and correct. Feeling comfortable feels good, especially in one’s own home and with one’s partner. We do have the option, though, to look for areas of discomfort that we’re willing to adapt to and be flexible around on our end, recognizing that others may be trying/struggling to do the same for us.

After all that, it can also help to explicitly recognize the positive side of the behaviors, and draw clear contrasts without judgment for new behaviors. Something (genuine) like: “I love how comfortable you all are together, and how you like to be together and encourage the kids to be independent around the house too. I’m enjoying learning about you and spending time with you. We all have things that we like different ways, and one thing I’ve realized is that my family always kept the bedroom aside as a “space for grown ups.” I know that would be new for the kids, but I think they’re quicker to adjust than I might be;). Could we brainstorm ideas for setting up different expectations for my room compared to other places they go? (If yes) Are there spaces at home or school that they know are only for grown ups? (If yes), Great, so I’d like to let them know that going into the bedroom at X, Y, and Z’s house is fine, but for some people like me, this room is more like the office, so let’s use office rules here instead.”

The STATE process seems like a great way to gather and share this data, discuss differences openly, and see how a new family dynamic can take shape. Best of luck.

]]>
By: Grizzly Bear Mom https://cruciallearning.com/blog/what-to-say-when-people-break-boundaries/#comment-5635 Wed, 01 Mar 2017 19:17:37 +0000 http://www.vitalsmarts.com/crucialskills/?p=6698#comment-5635 So sorry that you are stuck between a rock and a hard place. I wish you wisdom, love and courage.

]]>
By: Debi Potter https://cruciallearning.com/blog/what-to-say-when-people-break-boundaries/#comment-5634 Wed, 01 Mar 2017 14:15:34 +0000 http://www.vitalsmarts.com/crucialskills/?p=6698#comment-5634 I am grateful that this came to me today. My situation is a bit more stressful in that my problem is with a 29 year old step-daughter who is living with us and is also my husbands recently hired new office manager. There is a history of physical/verbal abuse from his former wife/her mother that plays into some of the issues. I have trouble “standing up for myself” because I end up being the “bud guy” not only from my step-daughter but from my husband. I need to read you books and get some counseling because this is killing my marriage.

]]>
By: carol Davison https://cruciallearning.com/blog/what-to-say-when-people-break-boundaries/#comment-5633 Wed, 01 Mar 2017 14:01:54 +0000 http://www.vitalsmarts.com/crucialskills/?p=6698#comment-5633 dear dream weaver,
after holding your crucial conversations, and saying I feel x when you do you do y, expect some hostility. let it go. afterward LOOK to catch them doing what you asked. say “John, thanks for putting the wet towels in the hamper. Jane, I appreciate your helping with the dishes. if Henry mows the lawn, make his favorite dessert and say “because Henry keeps the yard lovely I made his favorite brownies!” by doing so you are rewarding Henry and inspiring John and Jane to higher conduct. also, you can schedule time away from home at the movies, library, with friends, etc to minimize friction as well. best tof you.

]]>