Comments on: Help! My Friend is a Bit . . . Different https://cruciallearning.com/blog/help-my-friend-is-a-bit-different/ VitalSmarts is now Crucial Learning Thu, 03 May 2012 19:40:20 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: grizzly bear mom https://cruciallearning.com/blog/help-my-friend-is-a-bit-different/#comment-2400 Thu, 03 May 2012 19:40:20 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=2968#comment-2400 Regarding your strange friend: when I was on active duty in the states, my husband was deployed overseas. Evidently I missed our conversations because a while later one of my co workers asked “Don’t they let you talk at home?” Perhaps Mary has and never had anyone to interact with at home and hasn’t learned social niceties and small talk. Is she a recent widow, lost a loved one, empty nester or retiree and intimidated outside of conversing on allergies, ducks and cards?

To me it seems more loving, wise and courageous to say “My goodness Mary. We certainly want your input on more than ducks. What do you think of these photos of my grandchildren/new drapes/prize roses or the new Quarter Ponder?” or to schedule discussing travel plans next month than to provide an armature diagnoses of a mental illness.

They say if you hear hoof beats don’t look for zebras on Main Street.

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By: Joseph Grenny https://cruciallearning.com/blog/help-my-friend-is-a-bit-different/#comment-2399 Thu, 03 May 2012 18:59:51 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=2968#comment-2399 Thank you for sharing your personal insights, Alicia. I think the points you make are profoundly generalizable. So often we wring our hands rather than talk openly about things which just increases discomfort and undermines relationship. It’s not just ASD – but if I lost my job, lost my faith, lost my spouse – people seem paralyzed with fear about mentioning the obvious. The key to greater intimacy is openness not defensiveness.
Your invitation of that openness with people who share your condition is a great one!
@Alicia

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By: Alicia https://cruciallearning.com/blog/help-my-friend-is-a-bit-different/#comment-2398 Thu, 03 May 2012 08:15:19 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=2968#comment-2398 @SLCCOM
“Not everyone is diagnosed in childhood. Indifferent parents, unassertive parents, ignorant parents, stubborn parents who absolutely will NOT entertain the thought that something is wrong with little Junior, and many other situations can lead to someone who needs some help not getting it.”
Many are not diagnosed and not because of bad parents, poor people, people of color, girls, non-Americans, lack of access to the rare doctor that know ASD without prejudice, all are risks of not getting a diagnosis even if parents look for them. Actually is common for parents to go to several professionals until finding one that wants to help with no prejudice and that knows what autism is. Don’t blame parents, many fight for years to get help.
I agree with the rest of the comment, being ‘labeled’ is not bad, being on the autism spectrum is not bad, and for adults is very liberating and helpful. The only times the diagnosis looks bad is when a person knows others with bias against autistic people and give the wrong messages of us being inferior and broken.

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By: Alicia https://cruciallearning.com/blog/help-my-friend-is-a-bit-different/#comment-2397 Thu, 03 May 2012 08:06:14 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=2968#comment-2397 Thank you, I am actually autistic and really liked this article, normally people just love to blame us for every social failure without remembering that it takes more than one person to have social communication. Actually people just exclude us so it was great to read this.
I think those are helpful suggestions and it did something really rare that is to remember we are people with feelings.
Maybe one day more people will try to include people like me.
We normally care a lot about other people’s needs as long as we know what they are trying to tell us, talking openly and with respect is great for this, with all sides working to improve the situation there is a good chance this will work, for others that read this too.
Just one thing I need to say, many of us have sense of humor, many do not.

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By: Joseph Grenny https://cruciallearning.com/blog/help-my-friend-is-a-bit-different/#comment-2396 Wed, 02 May 2012 20:49:28 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=2968#comment-2396 Thanks to everyone for the encouraging words – Seems like most of us agree this is an “ability” not a “motivation” problem. And you can’t solve some ability issues with crucial conversations. The key is for us to be understanding and skillful in how we respond.

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By: Joseph Grenny https://cruciallearning.com/blog/help-my-friend-is-a-bit-different/#comment-2395 Wed, 02 May 2012 20:48:26 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=2968#comment-2395 Nice to hear from you, Craig! I’m glad the example was useful to you.
@Craig Battrick

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By: Joseph Grenny https://cruciallearning.com/blog/help-my-friend-is-a-bit-different/#comment-2394 Wed, 02 May 2012 20:47:39 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=2968#comment-2394 Wow, Rebecca, you’re wonderful. I admire people who can read about others’ idiosyncrasies and use it as a path to discovering their own! @Rebecca

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By: SLCCOM https://cruciallearning.com/blog/help-my-friend-is-a-bit-different/#comment-2393 Wed, 02 May 2012 19:47:35 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=2968#comment-2393 Elsy, I don’t believe that anyone is suggesting that Mary be “labeled.” However, talking to her about the possibility of the autism spectrum can be extremely helpful, and a very loving thing to do. Just as you would alert a friend that they are behaving in a way that suggests that they have a hearing loss, someone who has unusual behaviors can find that the possibility of a medical explanation lifts a weight of guilt and fear that you are somehow “choosing” the behavior and just need to stop it.

Not everyone is diagnosed in childhood. Indifferent parents, unassertive parents, ignorant parents, stubborn parents who absolutely will NOT entertain the thought that something is wrong with little Junior, and many other situations can lead to someone who needs some help not getting it.

As for talking to the group, helping others realize that Mary may not just be a jerk reframes the entire situation into something where Mary can be helped, welcomed and everyone has the opportunity to grow. This will, in turn, help the other members of the group become sensitive to the others in their lives.

This is not a matter of coworkers; it is a social group. Coworkers would make it an entirely different situation, as treating a coworker as if she is disabled can create serious problems for the company.

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By: Craig Battrick https://cruciallearning.com/blog/help-my-friend-is-a-bit-different/#comment-2392 Wed, 02 May 2012 19:16:06 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=2968#comment-2392 Joseph, this story was timely. Cheri and I spent an excruciating evening a couple of weeks ago with just such a person as Mary. We avoided her offer to attend another event with her the following night and thereby lost the opportunity to meet some new friends. Thanks for the help!

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By: elsy mejia-carpio https://cruciallearning.com/blog/help-my-friend-is-a-bit-different/#comment-2391 Wed, 02 May 2012 17:14:49 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=2968#comment-2391 My point of view reading this situation is that the Coffee Group is composed of so many people with different kind of behaviour. Since the majority of the group it seems afraid to get into the conversation either because they do not have nothig to said or because they are focusing on Mary’s issue only. To me it will be not prudent and I do not recommend that any of the group act as a psychologist or doctor to label Mary as having Asperger syndrome. It seems that the group is trying to label her in order to exclude themselves from their lack of social interactions. I recommend that all of them should try to talk and just do not let Mary to command the group. Mary may be think that all the group are enjoying her topic and she just keep talking about the same. Please do not tell Mary about any syndrome. Everyone as coworkers should recognize that they need to change their own behavior and share their own topics with the group. In life everyone have their own expertize or problems sharing them with other friends will increase their social interaction and friendship.

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