Comments on: Enforcing Neighborhood Rules https://cruciallearning.com/blog/enforcing-neighborhood-rules/ VitalSmarts is now Crucial Learning Tue, 06 Jun 2017 18:02:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: Mike Johnson https://cruciallearning.com/blog/enforcing-neighborhood-rules/#comment-1509 Tue, 06 Jun 2017 18:02:53 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=1064#comment-1509 Where do you find a copy of the actual covenants that apply to your neighborhood? As an HOA we have an abridged version but I am trying to find the original, where do I look, property deed?

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By: Melanie Prudom https://cruciallearning.com/blog/enforcing-neighborhood-rules/#comment-1508 Thu, 10 Mar 2016 20:08:21 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=1064#comment-1508 In reply to Sharon Campbell.

Work with the Board to get the rules changed. Get involved! They would welcome your assistance.

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By: Sharon Bowers https://cruciallearning.com/blog/enforcing-neighborhood-rules/#comment-1507 Tue, 27 Oct 2015 15:49:02 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=1064#comment-1507 But what about when the covenants have not be enforced and the neighborhood has multiple violations. How does one legally stop the madness of a neighbor who just points their fingers at your property and not the others? Legally do I have recourse? I’m happy here, take care of the property etc. I have a small trailer – however, as of yesterday I counted 8 parked out front of various homes and yet, I’m the one with a certified letter. And No, they were not kind and come and speak to me about this. No, I’ve ever received any covenants to even see what violations are broken period. I am a tenant, not an owner. I’d like some help with my problem.

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By: Eleanor Malloy https://cruciallearning.com/blog/enforcing-neighborhood-rules/#comment-1506 Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:47:38 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=1064#comment-1506

Sharon Campbell :But what about when the HOA rules are asinine? Really, the flowers were the wrong color?

@Sharon Campbell

Sharon, what you do is get on the POA, and enlist as many of your neighbors who feel the same way you do as possible. Then you CHANGE the darn rules to something that makes sense. Our POA has basic, simple rules (except for not hanging your laundry outside, which I will break this summer).

Eleanor

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By: Emily https://cruciallearning.com/blog/enforcing-neighborhood-rules/#comment-1505 Sun, 13 Feb 2011 20:38:52 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=1064#comment-1505 @Joseph Grenny
Hi Joseph thanks for replying. Emily

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By: Sharon Campbell https://cruciallearning.com/blog/enforcing-neighborhood-rules/#comment-1504 Fri, 11 Feb 2011 05:15:38 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=1064#comment-1504 This wasn’t anything so tricky. I figure that if I cannot smoke in the elevator, neither should Board members! (Incidentally, this was a matter of Law as well.)Code Enforcement in New York City was not interested in such things. Sorry, but I lost my trusting nature after seeing in organization after organization where the Little Hitlers take over and the rest of the people just let them.

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By: Robin MacDonald https://cruciallearning.com/blog/enforcing-neighborhood-rules/#comment-1503 Thu, 10 Feb 2011 23:40:01 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=1064#comment-1503 One option that may be helpful is contacting the folks that do code enforcement in your jurisdiction. Codes vary, but nearly all jurisdictions have code enforcement. Success will depend a lot on what the unwanted situation is. You can usually get friendly information by calling the city, town or county where you reside.

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By: Melanie Prudom https://cruciallearning.com/blog/enforcing-neighborhood-rules/#comment-1502 Thu, 10 Feb 2011 21:44:32 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=1064#comment-1502 Really love what Emily said, too.

@Sharon – In my experience, the HOA rules are almost worded loosely enough so in effect they are guidelines. It is often the interpretation and subsequent enforcement of said guidelines that gets tricky. A fully fuctional HOA should have consistent interpretation and enforcement. If not, then homeowners have to question who they elected onto the Board.

Of course, you can always invoke the rule that changes the rules!

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By: Sharon Campbell https://cruciallearning.com/blog/enforcing-neighborhood-rules/#comment-1501 Thu, 10 Feb 2011 01:52:01 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=1064#comment-1501 Actually, the problem with us and HOAs is that we, apparently foolishly, expect that the rules apply to the members of the Board as well as to us. And about the time someone tells me what color of flowers I can plant in my yard, well…. Opinions, ok. Orders on BS control items, absolutely not!

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By: Joseph Grenny https://cruciallearning.com/blog/enforcing-neighborhood-rules/#comment-1500 Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:17:55 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=1064#comment-1500 I agree with much of what has been said. For example, I agree that you should first be sure the problem is not YOU – if no one else is bothered then the problem might be your unreasonable expectations.
However, if a) it is a substantive issue; and b) the HOA rules clearly require compliance – then you are well within your rights to expect others to comply. I think Sharon Campbell did the right thing above by doing a U-Turn when she saw an HOA sign if she and her family did not want to live in a place where others could offer opinions about their choices. But once you move in, you’ve signed up for the feedback! I don’t agree that if a rule is nitpicky that you should be able to ignore it once you have moved in and explicitly agreed to follow it.

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