Comments on: Kerrying On: A Holiday Gift for the Children https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-a-holiday-gift-for-the-children/ VitalSmarts is now Crucial Learning Mon, 07 Mar 2022 23:23:11 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: Kim Roberts https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-a-holiday-gift-for-the-children/#comment-1430 Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:28:00 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=986#comment-1430 Greetings Kerry: I have a 22-year old Yabbit in the house, and she’s very skilled at this. I shall present her this present, on Christmas Morn, from my favorite Crucial Conversation author.
Thanks for a great year and Merry Christmas to the Kerry household!
Regards,
Kim

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By: bean sagof https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-a-holiday-gift-for-the-children/#comment-1429 Sat, 18 Dec 2010 22:46:51 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=986#comment-1429 ok, ok, i found out what’s wrong with it… it seems to try to supersede the golden rule. rather it doesn’t pay any homage to the golden rule’s place in social interactions, especially with people we’re not all that familiar with.

most of at least the women i talk to do not want to worry about being allowed to march all over their friends/family. on the contrary, they want to have a safety net (of conscientious friends/family) that is able to put them back in their place if they get too power hungry. for that reason does the golden rule apply to even bad things like violence and abuse. i think we might all have a grandmother or great-grandmother who, when we got into our biting phase as little children, would bite us right back so that we could see what it felt like. undoubtedly, this served to positively influence our future behavior.

this is exactly why standing up to a bully is supposed to work: they unconsciously tell themselves what they do is ok because they’ve just gotten used to people not providing (what would arguably be) the natural consequences of their bad behavior. So they keep right on until someone cares enough to point out their hypocrisy (i.e. that if they applied the golden rule to their behaviors, then they’d [supposedly] feel some remorse for treating other people that way.) sometimes they keep right on after that, and i think that’s when this anti-yabbit concept (and the next paragraph) are more effective techniques.

this also points to the role of taking responsibility for one’s perspective that so many have trouble with in one aspect or another. it’s HARD, at least when you’re younger, to get slapped in the face and have the perspective to know, without hearing it from witnesses, that everyone a. disapproves of the slapper, and super A. will help you do something about it if the slapping progresses. knowing these things, without explicit confirmation, serves to guide one’s behavior with a certain perspective that is less likely to lose control. that being said, if the slapping does progress it’s even harder to re-moralize after seeing you were wrong. then where is the line drawn between having an unbreakable perspective and being in denial?

if what you’re talking about is the lazy mode we get into from time to time (or for long periods!) by excusing ourselves from thinking about better ways to overcome the problem of someone else’s annoying behavior than being annoying right back, then i have applauded the concept. the golden rule certainly lacks in some departments (e.g. what do you do when you’ve found out that your rule doesn’t work for your loved one, like your style of argument or your morning kisses?), but it’s a good starting point until you’ve heard otherwise.

overall still a great message in a great package that i think will have massive influence on many people… i believe that’s called rock star status.

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By: Carole Eldridge https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-a-holiday-gift-for-the-children/#comment-1428 Sat, 18 Dec 2010 12:56:31 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=986#comment-1428 Absolutely delightful! I can’t wait to share this with others.

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By: Carmel https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-a-holiday-gift-for-the-children/#comment-1427 Fri, 17 Dec 2010 01:36:18 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=986#comment-1427 That’s a delightful story-poem Kerry. And yes, it would be wonderful made into a book with illustrations.

I’ve just worked on the design of a book of children’s quotes about parents called ‘Through Our Children’s Eyes’. As well as obtaining the quotes from children, the author (a delightful, joyous young woman called Margaret Jarvinen) got the children to do the illustrations. It occurred to me that this might be an excellent treatment to give your poem.

You can download an excerpt from the book at http://throughourchildrenseyes.com.au/ You’ll notice that the book is also a ‘workbook’ to encourage people to follow the same process with their own children. Again … could be very applicable for your message.

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By: bean sagof https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-a-holiday-gift-for-the-children/#comment-1426 Thu, 16 Dec 2010 04:16:44 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=986#comment-1426 to be contrary: this is just the worst!
yeah right! i can’t imagine the curmudgeon that would say that. i’m very impressed with this masterful display of multidisciplinary prowess and will save it for when i have children. thankyou for some good spamming material! hopefully it takes off like a virus.

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By: Colin Glover https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-a-holiday-gift-for-the-children/#comment-1425 Wed, 15 Dec 2010 23:43:47 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=986#comment-1425 Kerry

No wonder your so successful in this area your such an insightful story teller.

I think the kids could do the illustrations with maybe a part set aside for the book owner to work through with their family.

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By: Laura https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-a-holiday-gift-for-the-children/#comment-1424 Wed, 15 Dec 2010 21:31:38 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=986#comment-1424 What an impactful story (similar to Suess’ The Lorax)! Thank you for sharing – the language in your poem will certainly resonate with children (I know, because I’ve heard them use the same “yeah, but” phrases… I also love one writer’s suggestion that children provide the artwork for the story. I’ll propose this at my house tonight!

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By: Bill Heffernan https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-a-holiday-gift-for-the-children/#comment-1422 Wed, 15 Dec 2010 17:23:39 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=986#comment-1422 I have not read the poem, but have to saw I could not agree with your comments more. What frightens me most is how the attitude you describe has permeated our political dialogue. Maybe there never was a time when politicians worked together for the good of the country, but if there was I miss it!

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By: Sandy https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-a-holiday-gift-for-the-children/#comment-1421 Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:29:45 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=986#comment-1421 I’ve bee receiving the Vital Smarts newsletter for some months now and I have to say that receiving it inevitably brightens my Wednesday mornings. Often they help me feel more grounded and able to work from my better self. Thanks for inspiration and support.

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