Comments on: Kerrying On: Play It Forward https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-play-it-forward/ VitalSmarts is now Crucial Learning Tue, 08 Mar 2022 16:27:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: Barry Becker https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-play-it-forward/#comment-635 Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:34:33 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=469#comment-635 Kerry, I thought your response to Perplexed regarding the tendency to exaggerate the down-sides of speaking up was well said. I first read of the concept of “inflating the likelihood of negative consequences” termed “Negative Fantasies” by Jerry Harvey in his now famous Abilene Paradox article in HBR over 35 years ago. I guess many of the the basic challenges to effective behavior never change…

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By: Jessie Mae Hendrickson https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-play-it-forward/#comment-634 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:26:19 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=469#comment-634 Well said! I have already started implementing what I learned in class with my son who is six now. It works as designed no matter what the age. In teaching him how to socialize more I demonstrated how to introduce yourself to someone and initiate conversation. I did this with adults in front of him though. So then first chance he got I saw him reinact what he saw me do with a small girl on the play ground. He went right up to her and said, “Hello. My name is John Paul. I am so happy to see you here! What’s your name?” with an outstretched hand. She was a little leary but she did take his hand, shook it, and introduced herself. Then they played together.

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By: Cheryl Stinski https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-play-it-forward/#comment-633 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 17:44:32 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=469#comment-633 Thanks for an excellent article! I would only add: 1) this approach creates the likelihood that the person will actually hear your concern instead of just becoming defensive and fighting back; 2) wouldn’t it be wonderful if schools also taught students the fine art of communicating how to speak their minds in a way that is respectful by sticking to the facts and avoiding assumptions about another person or their motiviation; and 3)as parents and teachers we can never forget the need to practice what we teach, including when addressing bad behavior in our children. This is not a pussyfoot approach – it takes great courage and maturity to choose our response when we believe we’ve been wronged, rather than reacting out of our emotions. You can bet I’ll be playing this forward early on with my soon to arrive grandchild – and encouraging her parents to do the same.

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By: bean sagof https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-play-it-forward/#comment-632 Thu, 28 Jan 2010 04:50:23 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=469#comment-632 “What would the world be like if part of growing up was growing socially wise?”
amen, brotha. i thought for a long time that was standard until i noticed even adults acting like children in social situations. while i think it borders social engineering and is thus a skill to be careful/loving/graceful with, it seems to have the potential of a majorly progressive step. as a parent-to-be i have kept a journal of tidbits of social situations that flummox me and what i would like for my children to see in them.
thankyou for your thoughts and that thrilling research idea: i’m saving them for posterity,
b s

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By: Grizzly Bear Mom https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-play-it-forward/#comment-631 Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:53:25 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=469#comment-631 As a greter New Yorker I coach saying something. At least you gave them an opportunity to prove they weren’t a jerk.

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By: SLCCOM https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-play-it-forward/#comment-630 Sat, 23 Jan 2010 04:30:20 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=469#comment-630 I have a profound problem with the supervisor teaching a woman to say “I wonder” and “perhaps.” This tentativeness is precisely why so many women find their ideas being ignored until they are stolen by a man and restated. If the supervisor had instead suggested saying using assertive language, such as “I believe” and “I observe” and “My reason for this is” and advised against losing her temper, she would learn to be an effective advocate instead of an indecisive, wishy-washy pushover.

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By: David Pettengill https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-play-it-forward/#comment-629 Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:33:42 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=469#comment-629 Superb dissertation Kerry.

Your insight presents a great opportunity for enhanced parenting which is much needed in our world. Please encourage research and production of programs to help those interested implement this teaching. How to manuals with practice scenarios for example. This goes way beyond just someone cutting in line.

Thank-you for choosing to be extraordinary,
David Pettengill

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By: Luther Gaylord https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-play-it-forward/#comment-628 Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:38:39 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=469#comment-628 I wonder if, perhaps, people who feel the need to temper their criticisms and neuter their opinions with words like “I wonder” and “perhaps” are the same people who are unwilling to challenge the status quo. (The answer is “yes”.)

I totally disagree with Kerry Patterson that confrontation or name-calling = violence. People who cut in line DESERVE to be called bozos or worse. If others are too sheepish to follow my example of frankness and directness, that’s their problem — not mine.

Perhaps it is more EFFECTIVE to treat people with kid gloves (“You’ll catch more flies with honey than with vinegar”) but I’m just not inclined.

And who is to say that woman in Patterson’s example really did “push too hard” in opposing the policy change? So what if she called her opponents cretins? Maybe they ARE cretins. Doesn’t it depend almost entirely on what the policy change was and how it was going to affect the workers? She was painted as a hothead, but maybe she was the only one with balls enough to speak up.

It seems to me that Patterson’s message of “politeness” comes directly from the ruling class. It translates to “Know your place, prole.”

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As Owen thought of his child’s future there sprung up within him a feeling of hatred and fury against the majority of his fellow workmen.

They were the enemy. Those who not only quietly submitted like so many cattle to the existing state of things, but defended it, and opposed and ridiculed any suggestion to alter it.

They were the real oppressors — the men who spoke of themselves as “The likes of us,” who, having lived in poverty and degradation all their lives considered that what had been good enough for them was good enough for the children they had been the cause of bringing into existence.

He hated and despised them because they calmly saw their children condemned to hard labour and poverty for life, and deliberately refused to make any effort to secure for them better conditions than those they had themselves.

It was because they were indifferent to the fate of their children that he would be unable to secure a natural and human life for his. It was their apathy or active opposition that made it impossible to establish a better system of society under which those who did their fair share of the world’s work would be honoured and rewarded. Instead of helping to do this, they abased themselves, and grovelled before their oppressors, and compelled and taught their children to do the same. They were the people who were really responsible for the continuance of the present system.

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By: Brian Taylor https://cruciallearning.com/blog/kerrying-on-play-it-forward/#comment-626 Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:07:54 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=469#comment-626 We call it “queue-jumping” in Australia, Kerry, and it is one of the most annoying public behaviours that people can exhibit. I have to confess that, even as a CC Facilitator, my first reaction and burning desire is to tee-off at these offenders and give them a real blast. Your technique is a much better action to take. It contains a few elements of the STATE skills used in a short-cut way. I used to use it and teach it myself as a way of extending empathy to other people and I found that it always had a positive effect on the interaction. The use of this approach that I remember most though was not used by me. Years ago I was waiting to be served in a packed post office when a fellow came in and inadvertently stepped in right at the front of the line. You could feel the whole crowd bristle at his action. The man waiting behind him immediately tapped him on the shoulder and I thought that he was going to give the “criminal” the telling-off he deserved. Instead, he assertively, politely and tentatively pointed out the error that had been committed and the offender went to the back of the queue with his dignity intact and the rest of us returned to a normal state of impatience.
It gave me two insights – firstly, that the approach you recommend does work – and secondly, watching someone else use a skill effectively is one of the most powerful ways to learn.
Thanks for your article.
Brian Taylor
Sydney.

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