Comments on: Got an Awkward Conversation? https://cruciallearning.com/blog/got-an-awkward-conversation/ VitalSmarts is now Crucial Learning Sun, 28 Jun 2015 02:31:37 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: Sean Glaze https://cruciallearning.com/blog/got-an-awkward-conversation/#comment-4151 Sun, 28 Jun 2015 02:31:37 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=5894#comment-4151 Joseph and David –
Thanks for another effective and entertaining example of behaviors that can erode workplace morale and performance.
This is just like the “broccoli in my teeth” problem.
I assume that everyone would like to know if there is broccoli in their teeth and I am doing her / him a larger disservice by NOT sharing what is helpful information.
The key, of course, is as you pointed out – we must approach as a friend with genuine concern and empathy

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By: davidmaxfield https://cruciallearning.com/blog/got-an-awkward-conversation/#comment-4150 Thu, 18 Jun 2015 17:10:40 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=5894#comment-4150 Thanks Christie! I love the Odd Girl Out book. Also, check our Emily Bazelon’s book, Sticks and Stones.

Our research on bullying shows that both boys and girls “graduate” to silence as they grow older. Neither men nor women are very good at speaking up about risky, sensitive topics in ways that are direct, frank, honest, and respectful.

My dad used to say that we learn our people skills “at our mother’s knee, or some other low joint.” Too often, we fail to learn them at all. It’s great to see more schools step up to this challenge.

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By: davidmaxfield https://cruciallearning.com/blog/got-an-awkward-conversation/#comment-4149 Thu, 18 Jun 2015 17:02:07 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=5894#comment-4149 In reply to Sunil Roy.

Hi Sunil,

I’ll react to your suggestions. Overall, I believe they are sound–so I’ll emphasize any differences I might have.

1. Assume People Can Change. I would press even further than you suggest. I believe that even people who have strong agendas can change those agendas. In Crucial Conversations we talk about how to find Mutual Purpose–the broader purposes where differing agendas find common ground. I agree with your suggestions to find a quiet, casual place where the person will feel safe. You are also correct that mood (yours and theirs) will impact reactions.

2. Determine What You Really Want. Here I really want people to look within themselves. Often, when we face high-stakes, emotional disagreements, our motives and attention become short-term and self-centered. We focus on the immediate disagreement, and lose sight of our broader more long-term goals. I want people to think more long-term and more inclusively. This step is about getting your motives and your heart right. Having said that, I agree that many of these challenges will require multiple conversations and a true commitment to solving the problem.

3. Approach as a Friend. Research on People Perception (see Susan Fiske’s work at Princeton) suggests that the first judgment people make during a conversation is whether the other person is acting as a Friend or a Foe (Warm/Cold). Second, they judge whether the person is Right or Wrong (Competent/Incompetent). The mistake we make is to assume our motives are always pure and always transparent–that people know we are the “good guys”. So, we jump right into trying to prove we are right, before taking the time to show we are on their side. The skill here is to explain our motives in a way that is clear and positive, instead of making the person guess. Too often, people guess we are a foe.

4. Stick to Facts. Here we mean to lead with the documented facts that don’t involve judgments. Explain what you have observed and what you had expected. If the problem involves a pattern–as most do–then take the time to detail a couple of incidents that illustrate the pattern before giving the pattern a label. The facts can create common ground, because they are observable to everyone. Usually, the challenge comes when you move to your conclusions (your story) about what the facts mean to you.

Hope this helps,

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By: Christie Watson https://cruciallearning.com/blog/got-an-awkward-conversation/#comment-4148 Wed, 17 Jun 2015 20:34:45 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=5894#comment-4148 This reminded me of Odd Girl Out by Rachel Simmons. Girls are so afraid of hurting someone’s feelings/avoiding conflict that they put off being honest and solving the problem, at least directly. These girls obviously grow up and become women at home or in the work place who struggle with the same dilemma. It would be great for all people to understand that conflict is inevitable, not evil; we just need to learn how to handle it in a constructive way. I know that Simmons is working for this to be taught in the school system. Great to have you supporting similar ideas in the working world. Thank you for your advice.

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By: Sunil Roy https://cruciallearning.com/blog/got-an-awkward-conversation/#comment-4147 Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:04:35 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=5894#comment-4147 Hi Joseph & David,

While I like your article, I would like to have your views on the 2 cents that I shared above for each of your points. 🙂

Thanks
Sunil Roy

sunilkroy4@gmail.com

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By: Sunil Roy https://cruciallearning.com/blog/got-an-awkward-conversation/#comment-4146 Wed, 17 Jun 2015 18:57:25 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=5894#comment-4146 The comment I posted sometime back did not show up, so posting again. If that was being verified, then please ignore this particular comment.
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Thanks for this enlightening article, Joseph (& David).
Since I am a person who has generally spoken up where ever needed (with many times desired outcome, and a few times undesired outcome),
I would like to share my 2 cents for each of your points.

1) Assume people can change –
Mostly yes, unless a person has a specific agenda.
I have generally chosen Light moments to start that conversation (like in a cafeteria if he is alone, or an offsite event or a celebration/fun event or a situation where he is happy due to an appreciation or an accomplishment, etc.)
I have gauged the mood of the person before starting a difficult conversation, since a bad mood can spell havoc.

2) Determine what you really want –
I plan well for it, including a Plan B, where I can even volunteer to do something out of the way to help him understand/agree.
Even if he agrees to 50% of what the need is, it is a bonus to start with.
So, while I do assume that people will change, I do NOT go with a determination to change him in the first attempt.
If I see resistance, I am ready to back off for that moment, and pursue in a manner that is more positive from his point of view, later.
Also, I am ready to agree half-way that suits both of us.
This is a good start.

3) Approach as a friend, not a foe –
When approaching a peer, I go with a Request for Cooperation.
When approaching a senior, I go with a Request for Support.
This Request approach has helped me many a times, especially since it prevents me from bringing my ego in between, and also is a direct indication to him that I am not approaching him with my ego.
The Request approach also helps him soften his stand, and will at least lend his ears.

4) Stick to the facts –
Here again, I would use the Request approach.
I would say things like, “I have a small request. Could you please help me next time by allowing me too to give my opinion in that matter? It impacts my project, so I would like to explain my opinion too, to prevent a risk to my project.”
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And, when I look back, the few occasions where the outcome was not as desired, it was because…
1) Either the person had a different agenda OR
2) I had spoken in an impulse (maybe in a meeting or during the planned difficult conversation itself or in an urgency), rather than plan it out well or stay calm all along.

So, probably one point in your list could be to avoid impulsive reactions. It is there in my mental list at least.

Thanks
Sunil Roy

sunilkroy4@gmail.com

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By: David Maxfield https://cruciallearning.com/blog/got-an-awkward-conversation/#comment-4145 Wed, 17 Jun 2015 16:44:29 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=5894#comment-4145 In reply to Anonymous.

I’ll add my two cents here. First, I agree that the way we worded our question encouraged people to vent. In fact, many more or less blew their tops!

As a result, I also agree that they need to Start with Heart & Separate Facts from Stories. We intended to suggest that they take these steps.

Our second recommendation, “Determine what you really want” is designed to get them to re-examine their heart. Our third recommendation, Approach as a Friend, not a Foe” is also linked to Heart, in that we ask them to explain their positive motives up front.

Our fourth recommendation, “Stick to the Facts” is designed to help them avoid leading with their Story.

I wonder whether it’s sometimes helpful to vent to ourselves in order to figure out what is really in our vault. I have a feeling that some of these people hadn’t ever articulated their concerns–even to themselves. The mistake would be to vent these mixed-up and often self-serving stories to others. That’s why we have skills, right?

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By: josephgrenny https://cruciallearning.com/blog/got-an-awkward-conversation/#comment-4144 Wed, 17 Jun 2015 15:19:51 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=5894#comment-4144 Wow – sure hope that’s not the effect of sharing that painful quote. Our general point is that NOT dealing with it does not mean it’s NOT profoundly affecting the relationship. We don’t necessarily advocate talking about everything. We simply encourage people to recognize that their decision not to discuss has consequences too – and to be thoughtful about the tradeoffs. Nor do we believe that talking solves everything. But silence solves little as well.

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By: josephgrenny https://cruciallearning.com/blog/got-an-awkward-conversation/#comment-4143 Wed, 17 Jun 2015 15:17:06 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=5894#comment-4143 In reply to Anonymous.

Dear Anonynous – I want to make sure I learn from your comment – can you please clarify what “verified statements” you’re referring to? Are you commenting on something in the video or in the bullet point quotes above? Sorry if we fell short of being helpful!

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By: Working on a Groovy Thing https://cruciallearning.com/blog/got-an-awkward-conversation/#comment-4142 Wed, 17 Jun 2015 15:00:21 +0000 http://www.crucialskills.com/?p=5894#comment-4142 Joseph, you have just significantly increased the divorce rate in our country as I can see many couples opening the vault on their spouses. With all kidding aside, chances are one’s spouse (or significant other) has been on this earth for at least 20+ years and changing the situation (habitual or genetic) may take a long time, but I agree that the sooner you start the better. As mature adult human beings, we all have a tendency of weighing the cost/benefit of irreparably damaging the relationship forever or compromising on the little things in life (oh, I can live with that). Just stating the behavior or condition is not enough though, presenting a plan or several paths to improvement (using a prudent person’s definition of acceptable behavior or condition of course) in a palletable and empathetic manner is key. Over time, monitoring and feedback is important, but all too often as with loved ones, the feedback sounds like nagging so the adage of not what you said, but how you said it becomes crucial.

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